the witnesses of the book of mormon plates
Posted on October 8th, 2020
CES Letter asks, “why would the witnesses make following kind of statements….
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The personage then suddenly vanished with the plates, and where he went, she could not tell.” The Three Witnesses is the collective name for three men connected with the early Latter Day Saint movement who stated that an angel had shown them the golden plates from which Joseph Smith, Jr. translated the Book of Mormon; they also stated that they had heard God's voice, informing them that the book had been translated by divine power. The Mormon path toward truth is physical conclusions based on physical evidence and spiritual conclusions based on spiritual evidence. Get the latest updates on Book of Mormon topics and research for free. CES Letter repeats several of these quotes and changes their attribution to make them look different.
Thus, Mother Smith recasts Mrs. Harris as an unwitting witness of Book of Mormon’s veracity and physicality. I understand she felt inspired to write the lyrics of this hymn sometime after Joseph Smith had taught her the principle of heavenly parents. [188], Smith may have understood the sealing to be a supernatural or spiritual sealing "by the power of God" (2 Nephi 27:10),[189] an idea supported by a reference in the Book of Mormon to the "interpreters" with which Smith said they were buried or "sealed. No amount of scientific testing would convince them. Smith's translation process evolved from his previous use of seer stones in treasure-seeking. Such anxieties were relieved by Moroni’s timely visitation.[32]. The Book of Mormon itself refers to a long tradition of writing historical records on plates, of which the golden plates are a culmination (see List of plates (Latter Day Saint movement)). From a ship’s deck she shouted to an anti-Mormon heckler on the bank: [It] was brought forth by the power of God and translated by the same power, and if I could make my voice sound as loud as the trumpet of Michael, the archangel, I would declare the truth from land to land and from sea to sea and echo it from isle to isle, until everyone in the whole family of man was left without excuse—for all should hear the truth of the gospel of the Son of God![17]. Don’t misunderstand. Question: Are there any other witnesses to the Book of Mormon plates besides the Three and Eight witnesses?
(She undoubtedly refers to Moroni, the angel who had the plates in charge.). Moroni first instructed Joseph to enlist his oldest brother, Alvin, to help him recover the plates. . (CES Letter). This limited their ideas of the world about them. Historians now agree that ancient Asian people advanced in science and art, in many cases beyond other world civilizations of the time. [18] Her grandson reported that when Joseph first brought them home, she personally, “took the plates from him and laid them on the table temporarily. Joseph Smith with his wife and Oliver Cowdery, whom David Whitmer a short time previous had brought up from Harmony, Pennsylvania, were all boarding with the Whitmers, and my grandmother in having so many extra persons to care for, besides her own large household, was often overloaded with work to such an extent that she felt it to be quite a burden. For comparison’s sake, I provide here two versions of their accounts (in each case, I have added some paragraphing). (CES Letter), ““He only saw the plates with a spiritual eye” – Joseph Smith Begins His Work, Vol. Joseph Smith and the gold plates have nothing to do with seeing future events or far-away locations. David Whitmer It was through David, the fourth of nine children, that the entire family of Peter Whitmer Sr. had become acquainted with Joseph Smith in 1828.
This is why this argument is insidious. There is no holiness imbued in physical objects that prophets can use to build faith. To learn more about the circumstances that permitted any person to view the records, visit here. One does not need to be transfigured to see the gold plates. Three of the eleven were even blessed to be shown the plates by the Angel Moroni, himself. We build enduring faith in Jesus Christ by making the Book of Mormon accessible, comprehensible, and defensible to people everywhere. I think some of the marks on there were instructions to the typist 50 years ago when I published the Cox Family Bulletin, but otherwise I don’t know anything other than it came from O C Day when he was about 73 years old. According to Smith and others, the golden plates contained a "sealed" portion[136] containing "a revelation from God, from the beginning of the world to the ending thereof. Joseph was survived by his mother, his brother, William, and three sisters: Sophronia, Katherine, and young Lucy. If you have already gained that testimony, you can nourish it by reading the Book of Mormon daily, as our beloved prophet, President Ezra Taft Benson, has admonished. 3 October 2012, email from Carl Cox to Royal Skousen: Christian Whitmer was in the David Whitmer [Peter Whitmer Senior] home during the translation process, and is listed as one of those who actually acted as scribe, I believe. But the Lord had promised in the Book of Mormon that others besides the Three Witnesses might be privileged to view the plates: “At that day when the book shall be delivered unto the man of whom I have spoken, the book shall be hid from the eyes of the world, that the eyes of none shall behold it save it be that three witnesses shall behold it, by the power of God.
[2] “The Mormons,” Religious Herald, April 9, 1840; cited in Terryl L. Givens, The Viper on the Hearth: Mormons, Myths, and the Construction of Heresy (New York: Oxford University Press, 1997), 86. Did it ever occur to skeptics that they were calling an entire civilization of people–19th century New England–backwards primitives whose beliefs were based on fanciful imagination? He then untied his knapsack and showed her a bundle of plates, which in size and appearance corresponded with the description subsequently given by the witnesses to the Book of Mormon. The experience of Mother Whitmer would have been known by family members, and Elvira was an interested teenager at that time.
Christian Whitmer, one of the Book of Mormon witnesses and the eldest son of Peter Whitmer, had married Anna Schott in 1825. But the whole bulletin is a Xerox copy, which I just noticed.
Smith said that he found the plates on September 22, 1823, on a hill near his home in Manchester, New York, after the angel Moroni directed him to a buried stone box. We are living in a secular Western world, and ex-Mormons tend to become secularists. To opt out of Google Analytics, visit the Google Analytics Opt-out Page. This comes from Antimormon Anthony Metcalf many years after Martin Hariss’s death. The best-known elements of the golden plates story are found in an account told by Smith in 1838 and incorporated into the official church histories of some Latter Day Saint movement denominations. [Page 43]I am just sending the cover this time, and will send about 4 pages at a time because they are big files.
Emma Smith said in later interviews: Q.-Are you sure that he had the plates at the time you were writing for him? [199], The golden plates were said to contain engravings that the Book of Mormon describes as reformed Egyptian. (CES Letter). Most members know of Mother Smith’s in-depth biography of Joseph Smith.
The most famous is from her son, David: …my mother was going to milk the cows, when she was met out near the yard by the same old man (judging by her description of him) [whom David had seen on the roadside in a prior incident] who said to her, ‘You have been very faithful and diligent in your labors, but you are tired because of the increase of your toil, it is proper therefore that you should receive a witness that your faith may be strengthened.’ Thereupon he showed her the plates.[30]. [41] However, Smith eventually obtained the written statement of several witnesses who saw the plates. This law the Lord has always followed in granting new revelation to the people. A wonderful woman wrote the hymn called,”O My Father” It is written by Eliza R. Snow. [158] According to later statements ascribed to Martin Harris, he viewed the plates in a vision and not with his "natural eyes. David Whitmer is quoted in a 1991 book: “Oliver told me, they knew just when I started, where I put up at night and even the name on the sign board of the hotel where I stayed each night, for he had asked Joseph to look in the Seer stone, that he did so and told him all these particulars of my journey.”.
The personage then suddenly vanished with the plates, and where he went, she could not tell. . I wish we could say that after this wonderful experience Lucy Harris became a great supporter of the work of the Restoration, but, sadly, this was not the case. Required fields are marked *, “Martin Harris… told all about the gold plates, Angels, Spirits, and Jo Smith.—He had seen and handled them all, by the power of God!”, “I know what I know. She gave Joseph $28, certifying Lucy Harris as the first recorded donor to the Book of Mormon’s translation.
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i�R���p,��:�w�_Ə[�8(�hL��)�u>�%��&�d3��M��&��f���5.�x�Cxi�$��#Z For more information about this singular figure in LDS history, go here. [32] “Elvira Pamela Mills”, Cox Bulletin II (1958), written by Orville Cox Day (O C Day). Joseph Smith’s role as a seer is described very differently in early Mormon literature and in the Book of Mormon. Maybe we should be less concerned about material comforts and more concerned about our spiritual welfare? [208], Hugh Nibley said in 1957 that proof of the actual existence of the golden plates would not settle disputes about the Book of Mormon and the story of its origin.
Smith is the only source for a great deal of the story because much of it occurred while he was the only human witness. Not only does it contradict clear statements by the Book of Mormon witnesses of seeing physical objects with physical eyes, it suggests that any knowledge of anything unseen is mere superstition.
The allegations about the seer stone make no such claim. After similarly overpowering the man, Joseph continued to run, but before he reached the house, a third man hit him with a gun. And at the beginning of the compilation of Elvira’s stories he said: “While spinning and weaving wool, grandma liked to tell us stories about her people.”. The eight witnesses did not see the angel, and none of them ever said anything about spiritual sight or supernatural events. [Page 37]John C. Whitmer’s 1878 account, as recorded by Andrew Jenson (see his Latter-Day Saint Biographical Encyclopedia 1:283, Salt Lake City, Utah: 1901): I have heard my grandmother (Mary Musselman Whitmer) say on several occasions that she was shown the plates of the Book of Mormon by a holy angel, whom she always called Brother Nephi. Believers in the Book of Mormon heard the witnesses declare that the plates were real and that the Book of Mormon was true.
Why do Antimormons often attack their characters, almost as much as they attack Joseph Smith’s?
Fake: Again, Antimormon Mormon Anthony Metcalf many years after Martin Hariss’s death. Why is there lightning in the sky? 2 (2004): xi–xv. I present these women and their accounts in no particular order. The first claim comes from John A. Clark, the same Antimormon who made up the quote about Martin Harris seeing Jesus in a deer.
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